Can the PMMA help with the Philippine Navy's training needs?

[Adroth]

Here's an intriguing post from 3/e, a seafarer, on PDFF. Originally posted on the Want to be a PN Res. officer

i have worked with one pmma grad who is actually a reserve Lt.cdr as he hold chief engineer license. he is one tough and smart guy, he have work in different area of maritime industries and loves to teach as he teaches part time in the training center.

if only the navy and also the pcg is seriuos, perhaps they can ask the academy of both institution to conduct trainings for thier personnel on both actual and in-house base computer, simulator training because this academies are eqiupt with state-of-the-art simulator as well as training facilities.

philippines are no longer left behind with this kind of training infact in one of my training's thier are japanese and european taking simulator courses here in the phil. the people who run this institution are likely military wether PN or PCG, retired or active still they can work it out.

Does the PN leverage the training facilities of the PMMA?

How do these two government entities cooperate?

I vaguely recall a PMMA alumnus lamenting that there were plans to convert the PMMA into a Philippine Naval Academy. Given the problems stated in State of the Philippine Navy, I can understand why someone thought of it.

[rollsroyce]

it's true. some of thier alumni is pushing for the transition of the academy. pmma almost lost thier glory way back years ago because they where having hard time getting thier graduate to board a vessel probably because of booming maritime school in the region and i think before the student is all scholars of the goverment until i think one president took out the privileges beacuase for what i know the academy is under the philippine coast guard. the president of my agency in manila was an alumus of pmma, a PN officer was transfered to PCG until he decided to retire and pursue his career being a merchant mariner. he became the president of the academy and for then on he was the brain of transfering the academy to a naval academy in the philippines. since almost the president of the academy were captains,commodore,rear or vice admiral of PN or PCG and that some graduate entered the military, i don't see any problem with that! the curriculum in the academy is not like other maritime school, although they follow the standard curriculum given by ched they are more military style and that they see to it that thier cadets upon getting 2nd class or second year in college, they need to board a vessel and the academy will find a way for them. it may be international or local just like in subic were pmma cadets manning the vessel. making it a naval academy in the philippine is no dout.they have acqiured state-of-the-art simulators for both bridge and engine and the training eqiuptment they have plus the knowledge and expirties of the instructor  indeed the academy is qualify to be one.

[el_commandante]

If I'm not mistaken, the PMMA receives technical and financial aid in abroad since it is considered a civilian maritime academy. Turning the PMMA into a naval military academy might curtail the flow of aid. A Scenario, if the PMMA wants to import ships, and spares from Japan, it would be rejected since Japan bans export of military equipment.

[Adroth]

Manokski posted this one on his PS36 Post upgrade pic thread, and it was too good have it buried.

On another note, I heard that the PN was assigning crewmen aboard civilian ships that have similar engines to the Jacintos to train them in maintenance.

This is a very good development. The PN is finally leveraging the Philippine's merchant fleet's knowledge in using relatively more advanced naval equipment.

Does anyone know if the PN actually leverages the PMMA?

[Pachada]

yes, its true. the PN sends sailors to train aboard WG@A ships because their ships also use Pielstick engines which is same as the peacock class. WG@A has agreement with PN. in fact WG@A is part of PNARU together with Aboitiz supercat ferries.

Manokski posted this one on his PS36 Post upgrade pic thread, and it was too good have it buried.

This is a very good development. The PN is finally leveraging the Philippine's merchant fleet's knowledge in using relatively more advanced naval equipment.

Does anyone know if the PN actually leverages the PMMA?

[Adroth]

yes, its true. the PN sends sailors to train aboard WG@A ships because their ships also use Pielstick engines which is same as the peacock class. WG@A has agreement with PN. in fact WG@A is part of PNARU together with Aboitiz supercat ferries.

Very nice 

I hope you don't mind, I quoted you here: Reservists taking part in improving combat readiness

[Pachada]

Aboitiz has 2 shipping subsidiaries: Supercat ferries(fast catamaran 34 knot ferries) and the Superferries(ex-Japanese 14,000 tonner 20+ knot ro-ro ships). The supercats are equipped with night vision lenses enabling them to travel at high speed even at night without worrying about hitting another ship

Now, while the Pielstick engines are used by the Aboitiz Superferries and the Jacinto class OPVs, I forgot to add something really interesting. Did you know that the Cyclone class of the Philippine Navy uses the Paxman Valenta diesel engines?? and did you know its  the same engine brand used by Aboitiz supercat catamaran fast ferries?? check it out here:

FBM Aboitiz SuperCats  - Two 50 metre high speed trimaran ferries built by FBM Aboitiz in the Philippines are each fitted with two 12 cylinder VP185s, rated at 2,180 kWb at 1,835 rpm. The ferries are designed to carry up to 404 passengers and have an operational speed in excess of 35 knots.

U.S. Navy "Cyclone Class" Patrol Boats Coastal.   In 1990 Paxman received an order for thirty two engines for the eight of these 52 metre boats initially ordered by the US Navy. The boats were built by Bollinger Machine Shop and Shipyard Inc of Lockport, Louisiana. The first 'boat set' of four engines was despatched from Colchester in March 1991 and USS Cyclone, the first of its Class, underwent sea trials in the summer of 1992. With their four screws, each driven by a 16 cylinder Valenta RP200-1-CM producing 3,350 bhp at 1,500 rpm (continuous), 3,600 bhp at 1,540 rpm (sprint), Cyclone Class boats have a design speed of over 30 knots. In 1991 another five boats were ordered, resulting in an order for a further twenty engines. There are fourteen boats in the Class and at least 60 Valentas have been supplied for the PBC programme.

Paxman website: http://www.nelmes.fsnet.co.uk/paxman/applics1.htm


Supercat info:  http://www.supercat.com.ph/aboutus_ourfleet.asp