KALAKIAN APC, it's status? is it deployed to LABDE?

[gageandsaracen]

 hi there,


just asking,what is the current status of the KALAKIAN APC? is it in our in operation with the LABDE? or was just used as demonstration for media information that we could produce an APC locally?


just a suggestion 1 meter gun turret for our LAV-150 and LAV- 300 APC why not consider using  .50 cal combination with 40mm AGL pod. it packs powerful punch.   

lastly, i understand a number of  SIMBA APC's, LAV-150's, LAV-300 FSV and M113 APC/FSV  were knocked out during the war with MILF back in the year 2000.How was it replaced? did learn a lesson from the incident back in the year 2000-2003?


thanks

[Ominae]

I heard that the Simba was used over the Kalakian instead.

[Wowowiee]

hi there,


just asking,what is the current status of the KALAKIAN APC? is it in our in operation with the LABDE? or was just used as demonstration for media information that we could produce an APC locally?

just a suggestion 1 meter gun turret for our LAV-150 and LAV- 300 APC why not consider using  .50 cal combination with 40mm AGL pod. it packs powerful punch.   

lastly, i understand a number of  SIMBA APC's, LAV-150's, LAV-300 FSV and M113 APC/FSV  were knocked out during the war with MILF back in the year 2000.How was it replaced? did learn a lesson from the incident back in the year 2000-2003?

thanks

Hello there! Sir if you would review some of the earlier threads, it was mentioned that about twenty locally built KALAKIAN (water buffalo) APC's were bought for trials by the army (no confirmation). And if you would kindly visit www.hueybravo.net and see that teh PMC has already converted most of it's V300 APC's 1-meter turret with the CIS 40 MM AGL coupled with the 7.62 mm but they laso mentioned that it is possible to install the 50 cal with the 40 mm AGL.

[Wowowiee]

I heard that the Simba was used over the Kalakian instead.

SIMBA did not compete with the KALAKIAN..KALAKIAN is actaully a local attempt to copy/improve? SIMBA APC. SIMBA was chosen and purchased way back during the time of FVR..remember an article in Asiaweek (now defunct) with the article title "MANILA's LION of IRON!" it had a full set of pics for the possible models/versions that the SIMBA can be availed in. APC, AMBULANCE, 90 mm FSV, Mortar carrier, 20 mm Weapons carrier, so on and so forth.

A good 150 units were bought and most were assembled in country.

[drahcir]

I believe whatever Kalakian we have are currently employed. These vehicles are based on the Simba. There is no reason why these should be unused. It can be supported and maintained.

[gageandsaracen]

For the Kalakian APC i know it is based on the SIMBA design and specifications (well,almost a SIMBA  made in the Philippines). I know the PA has bought 20 of the units as experimental APC. The only thng is that it has never been deployed in the field units (like the SIMBA,LAV-150,YPR-765 PRI,M113 and Scorpion, Chaimaite).

what are the plans for the KALAKIAN? is it going to be deployed with the LABDE? Or is it going to be on until experimental stage only? Indonesia and Malaysia has built their own APC based on their designs. what is to be on our country's armoured assets? also, what is the status on the Scorpion armoured reconnaissance vehicles (LIGHT TANKS i meant) are they on used for the insurgency operations? I never heard or seen scorpion tanks used on insurgency operations (baka takot sa  RPG )

thanks

[Adroth]

Is the Kalakian officially dead?

Interesting photos from a Thai forum

[israeli]

yeah. what in the world happened to the Kalakian? we could have exported the Kalakian to potential buyers overseas aside from having it used within the Army.

[predator]

I hate to hear that sir Adroth ... is Kalakian is officially Dead? 

Though the specs is almost the same with APC its only bigger and has a stonger engine ... but no aircon and isn't amphibious .

I've heard also it has the same thickness of amour plates with the Simba.

But still I believe It has a lot of space to improve than SIMBA and this thing I can say Pinoy Made.   

[israeli]

Though the specs is almost the same with APC its only bigger and has a stonger engine ... but no aircon and isn't amphibious.

hmmmm... is the Simba air-conditioned and amphibious? i have no problem with the amphibious part but with the air-conditioned part... oh well... it sounds like more of an air-conditioned FX to me.

[CityHunter]

On an old TV forum then not yet senator Pong Biazon described why the Simba is more suited for the Army while the V-150 for the Marines.  Mas suited for amphibious duties yun V-150 but the Simba qualifies well for what the Army guys need.  Something to do with where the engine is placed plus the general construction of the design.

May napanood ako na movie titled Guerreros wherein there's this mixed bunched of UN troops in Kosovo.  Nagtataka lang ako how come a single sniper shot easily penetrated the glass windshield of their APC killing the driver instantly.  Mukhang Dragunov ginamit so heavy round yun.  Mukhang Simba yun porma ng APC in question.  Ganun ba ka-vulnerable yun?  Napansin ko yun APC na ginamit sa Hacienda Luisita di tinagusan ng bala although 5.56mm lang yun.  Does this mean limited protection lang ang mga APC natin kaya parang pang-fire support na lang sila?  Wouldn't investing in better M-113 designs better kaya siguro shelved itong Kalakian project?

[israeli]

^ hey comrade City Hunter! how are you?

actually, that is also one question in my mind right now. how come most of the world's armies possess more tracked armored vehicles like the AIFV and the M113 than wheeled armored vehicles like the Simba and V-150/V-300?

[CityHunter]

Sir israeli, from what I know mas suited yun wheeled sa atin para hindi magalit yun mga rural folks as tracked ones tear up the road kahit mabagal ang takbo.  Pero sa all-terrain capability mas lamang yun tracked.  Sayang nga lang hindi pa natin ginagamit yun successor sa band tracks para pwede rin sa kalye pero di sisirain yun daan.  Mas maganda rin daw kasi distribution ng weight kaya mas mabigat pwede idala ng tracked over wheeled.

Ang isa pang curious ako (OT na ito) ay anong nangyari sa hovercraft project.  That would be a good assist to our armored vehicles lalo na kung lagyan ng armament (ala that James Bond movie na set sa Korean DMZ). 

[gageandsaracen]

Hello there! Sir if you would review some of the earlier threads, it was mentioned that about twenty locally built KALAKIAN (water buffalo) APC's were bought for trials by the army (no confirmation). And if you would kindly visit www.hueybravo.net and see that teh PMC has already converted most of it's V300 APC's 1-meter turret with the CIS 40 MM AGL coupled with the 7.62 mm but they laso mentioned that it is possible to install the 50 cal with the 40 mm AGL.

Hanggang trials lang pala ang KALAKIAN. so there are no plans to manufacture  APC's since the PA has no budget. aight hanggang forum lang tayo.

the LAV-150's and the rest of the PALABDE armoured assets are to upgraded for life extension right?
is there any plans to expand their numbers like instead of 41 scorpions make it 150 to be categorized as 100 armed reconnaissance vehicles (it is not a tank) with 90mm main gun, 50 scout vehicles like the scimitar or sabre
(i hope we have the budget) so on with the M113 with increased it to 150- 200 vehicles at least 60 with 1 meter turret with combi 40mm grenade launcher/ 50. cal main gun with rear M60 7.62 machine guns. then 100 will be FSV configured with scorpion or saladin turrets (gosh only in our dreams, since we could not afford even a decent healthcare for our fellowmen).30 mortar carriers and the 10 ARVs. AIFV's i think the inventory of those should increase their numbers . and  I do understand we could have the technology transfers noting we have the capacity to make bank armoured cars and other armoured vehicle assets. ( i hope there are plenty R&D or research and developement funded by teh government.

For the marines, I think LVTP-5 should be revived. These machines are awesome as almost as the AAV-7. though inferior than the AAV. I sure hope more are revived aside the LVTH-6 and LVTH-E? vehicles


Also, fuel is the most important ingredient to power to most vehicles today (armoured,civilian,military ) I SURELY HOPE THERE IS A SOLUTION TO HAVE FOUND OR MARKETED NEW FUELS ALTERNATIVES TO LESSEN OIL OR FOSSIL FUEL IMPORTATION FROM ABROAD.SINCE SUPPLY IS VERY LIMITED.


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[predator]

Sayang ano shelved na pala ito ... 

The French troops used this kind of light armoured vehicle mounted with a turret.... though they are using 6 wheeled type.

The way I watch it is very effective and tanks maybe cann't do it especially in city war where speed is essential.

They have used it in Iraq  to reach Northeast of Iraq comming from south, it moves fast to reach the destination in no time

They have use it also in some parts of Africa were some city have narrow roads and they were moving very fast ...

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